More than Just Voting: How to Protect Our Democracy, with Rachel Vindman

Marissa welcomes Rachel Vindman back on the podcast for a heartfelt and funny conversation about everything that’s going on in the world, from climate change to why Lindsay Graham insists on being Trump’s bestie to Ron DeSantis’ special kind of fascism. Rachel also offers real ways we all can help democracy stick around a little longer in the United States–and her suggestions go far beyond just voting. Plus, Marissa and Rachel ponder careers as high-end SCIF interior designers and Marissa bakes a lime, olive oil and ricotta cake.